{"id":7638,"date":"2023-06-12T12:45:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-12T10:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/?p=7638"},"modified":"2023-06-07T16:25:50","modified_gmt":"2023-06-07T14:25:50","slug":"intervista-a-jeroen-dubbeldam-puo-la-horsemanship-salvare-gli-sport-equestri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/2023\/06\/12\/intervista-a-jeroen-dubbeldam-puo-la-horsemanship-salvare-gli-sport-equestri\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Jeroen Dubbeldam: Can horsemanship save Equestrian Sports?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p>By <strong>Susanna Cottica<\/strong><\/p><div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Practical, wise, sensitive and highly experienced rider, with great attention to detail, always calm and respectful, <strong>Jeroen Dubbeldam<\/strong> has always produced his horses slowly, giving them time to grow, respecting their psycho-physical growth, bringing them up to achieve extraordinary results and a long career.&#13;\n&#13;\nDubbeldam, just turned fifty, is one of the riders who has collected the most medals in show jumping, and he was also one of the very few\u00a0 horse and riders partnerships to be <strong>World Champion<\/strong> (2014 Caen) and <strong>European Champion<\/strong> (2015 Aachen, team and individual gold) at the same time, record which to date not very many riders have obtained, mentioning among all Peder Fredricson and H&amp;M All In and Henrik von Eckermann and King Edward,\u00a0 holders of two titles at the same time.<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As well as the medals they also hold a long series of victories in the most important Grands Prix and Nations Cups in the world.<\/span><\/p><div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00abI love what I do very much. Being with horses, training a horse and discovering his strengths, helping him overcome his weaknesses, starting with a young horse and creating a partnership. This is what I do. I\u2019ve never put all of my focus on winning. Being a horseman is what I desire the most\u00bb<\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/i><\/p><cite><strong>Jeroen Dubbeldam<\/strong><\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure><div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-640x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7629\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-640x1024.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-188x300.jpg 188w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-768x1229.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-960x1536.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-730x1168.jpg 730w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-655x1048.jpg 655w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>Jeroen and Bmc Nassau<\/figcaption><\/figure><div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><h2 class=\"has-vivid-red-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">The Interview<\/h2><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><\/p><p class=\"has-text-color has-vivid-red-color\"><strong>Your long career as an athlete and as a winner is founded, on horsemanship, good riding and welfare. The question is: Who were we? Who we are today and where we are going to? What do you think is the best way to keep our horses safe and to gain the public trust and the social license? <\/strong><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is also a lot of questions at the moment, also in Holland, regarding the welfare of horses.<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe 20-30yrs ago there were only horsey people in our sport. With real horseman you never have to worry about horses\u2019 welfare, because they understand the term \u2018horsemanship\u2019. But nowadays our sport is more globalised, it includes many more countries but also a lot of people these days don\u2019t have an equestrian background, they don\u2019t come from equestrian families. It\u2019s very important to educate them the right way. Horses are not motorbikes, they are alive and need to be treated with respect, and it\u2019s our job as experts of this industry to guide them in the right direction. We need to be the good example for the countries that are new to the equestrian sports. It\u2019s a big task for us to be a good role model and to guide the countries that are new to our world and to teach them how to treat horses the right way. We need to keep our eyes open and be able to have discussions about horses welfare. People against our sport will always argue that the horse can\u2019t make a choice, which is true, we make choices for them, but they like it, they can\u2019t talk but we can talk with them. We can communicate with them, we know and feel if they like there job or not, it\u2019s very difficult to explain how but we can understand them.\u00a0<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I had a television interview in Holland, one guy was very negative about this subject, but I managed to convince him. This hasn\u2019t happened yet, but I have invited him to come to my stables. I have offered him to stay with me for a week and take part in every activity, he can follow everything we do, A to Z, from 7am until the evening. On TV you only see two or three highlights of a competition, and it can appear as rough riding. I understand it can look that way, but there is a lot more we do for horses at home.\u00a0<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I know it can look \u2018aggressive\u2019 in the ring, but horses like the adrenaline, sometimes we must calm them down. This can be difficult to explain to non horsey people. I am hoping he will come to my stables for one week so he can see everything, there will be no secrets, no hiding. After one week he can then tell me what he thinks of our world, and I\u2019m convinced he will change his mind.\u00a0<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The problem is nowadays in our sport we have lots of people with non-horsey background, it\u2019s not a problem but we need to guide them and help them do the right thing, because they don\u2019t really know how to manage the horses. It\u2019s our job to explain it to them.<\/span><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p class=\"has-text-color has-vivid-red-color\"><b>Is it time to teach people and do a good communication?<\/b><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A few weeks ago we had a big show in Amsterdam, I went to one of my fellow riders because I didn\u2019t think he was treating his horse in the right way. He didn\u2019t have a good round so when he came out of the ring he was fighting with his horse. I was thinking \u2018shall I go and talk to him or not\u2019, I decided I should, I said \u2018this is not good, I understand you are disappointed and frustrated but remember we need to be an example and what you are doing is not good for your horse and for the sport\u2019. <strong>I think it\u2019s very important that as colleagues we are not afraid to correct each other.<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if he liked me expressing my opinion, but I felt I had to. This rider is in the top 10 in the world, and I did what I thought was the right thing. I hope, thinking about it afterward, he agreed with me.<\/span><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-1024x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7632\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-1024x640.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-768x480.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-1536x960.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-730x456.jpg 730w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1-655x409.jpg 655w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Jeroen and Simon<\/figcaption><\/figure><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p class=\"has-text-color has-vivid-red-color\"><b>There are many discussions about three or four horse-rider combinations in the team at the Olympics. In Paris 2024 our sport will be in the eye of the public opinion. What do you think about that?<\/b><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>I also am a bit worried about the Olympic games in the future.<\/strong> <strong>The only thing we can do is be good ambassadors for our sport and show what\u2019s nice about it.<\/strong> We can\u2019t do it around the table, we can only show it. People that don\u2019t like our sport must notice that we also don\u2019t close our eyes and pretend nothing is wrong, <strong>we must not deny that there are things in our sport that are not right and that we have to change.<\/strong> If that\u2019s noticed, we will get a bit more sympathy.<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Passion and love for horses, that\u2019s where it starts, if that\u2019s not the start it\u2019s wrong already.<\/span><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p class=\"has-text-color has-vivid-red-color\"><b>And what about you\u2026?<\/b><\/p><div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m getting a little bit older, but I\u2019m still trying to compete with these guys at the top level. I now have one young horse, Investment which is really good, he was 2nd in CSI 3* in the 150 in Gorla Minore.<\/span>&#13;\n&#13;\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I am very happy with this new horse, he motivates me, maybe he will really get me back into the sport.<\/span><\/p><div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00ab<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All my horses are important to me. De Sjiem, however, was the most important of my career, I had a very special bond with him. He started my success and marked my path. I have achieved many victories and medals in my career but thanks to De Sjiem I won a gold Olympic medal, which is the ultimate goal for any rider<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00bb.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure><div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-1024x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7635\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-1024x640.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-768x480.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-1536x960.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-730x456.jpg 730w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2-655x409.jpg 655w, https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/Progetto-senza-titolo-2.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Jeroen and De Sjiem <\/figcaption><\/figure>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Susanna Cottica Practical, wise, sensitive and highly experienced rider, with great attention to detail, always calm and respectful, Jeroen Dubbeldam has always produced his horses slowly, giving them time to grow, respecting their psycho-physical growth, bringing them up to achieve extraordinary results and a long career.&#13; &#13; Dubbeldam, just turned fifty, is one of&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":7627,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[126,173,57,58],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7638","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-featured-en","category-interviste-en","category-salto-ostacoli-en","category-sport-en","category-126","category-173","category-57","category-58","description-off"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7638","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7638"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7638\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7640,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7638\/revisions\/7640"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7627"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7638"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7638"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.cavalliecavalieri.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7638"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}